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[sunshine_queen]

- ... but I don't get it. He must've already cheated on Emily when Jacquelyn was born. Sloane, it's your fault Jacquelyn died! Your guilt!

-But it's weird, now, thinking that they went back to live in Italy at the end of season two, as it was where Jacquelyn died and all. Although I guess it's nice, seeing as Emily died there too.

-I was so disgusted when she did that. I was all, Sydney, this is yout father WHO GOT RADIATION POISONING SAVING YOUR LIFE. Will you PUT THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE A BIT.

- I know that Nadia kinda loves Sloane, but it doesn't make sense why. Yeah, he's her dad... but other than a few assorted dinners AND HIM TAKING HER AROUND THE WORLD AND PUMPING HER FULL OF RAMBO GOO, where is the love? And I love Nadia to death, so I was all touched by her cuteness.

- Dude, the montage rocked on. The only thing I disliked was the spinning. I HATE when they spin. It makes me nauseous. But she was hardly the first to do it, so I can forgive her.

I'ma go watch again with Mommy.

... But, he said "30 years ago" in reference in Jacquelyn, which puts her before Nadia, and the whole affair- dude, what YEAR is it? How old is Nadia, like, 25? 26? And Syd, six, seven years older? Is Syd 33? So, Syd was 3 when Jacquelyn happened... which means Nadia didn't exist... so, Sloane and Emily came back from Europe, and Sloane had the affair and Irina left... and then Sloane and Emily went back to Europe? I AM CONFUSED.

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[dollsome.livejournal.com]

O, I share your confusion. It seems like everything about the Slirina affair makes no sense. None. None, I tell you!

[puggywuggy.livejournal.com]

What's interesting about it, though, is that Irina is such a proponent for free will... and yet, her daughters' existences were both fated, really.

This show boggles. :P

[sunshine-queen.livejournal.com]

Irina, Irina, you wouldn't have cheated on Jack!

I still stand by my apartment on the banks of de Nial, fondly christened "Nadia was a Rambaldi cocktail of Irina and Sloane; shaken, not stirred."

[puggywuggy.livejournal.com]

but I don't get it. He must've already cheated on Emily when Jacquelyn was born.

Err, why's that? If Jacquelyn's death is what pushed him over the edge, then it's what got him so into Rambaldi. As a Rambaldi fanatic, he had the affair with Irina. Plus there's that whole It Was Fate! dealio, so whatever.

he said "30 years ago" in reference in Jacquelyn

And then there's Irina's "almost thirty years," to Sydney. But really, it's been more like twenty-seven. Sure, that's SUPER close to thirty years and definitely warrants an "almost thirty years," but it isn't thirty years. Sloane's probably just putting a number out there.

I believe it went Sydney, shortly thereafter Jacquelyn, and then Sloane went all Rambaldi and shit, and then came Nadia.

I know that Nadia kinda loves Sloane, but it doesn't make sense why.

I think it's mostly a set up. Sloane's love for Nadia and her "unconditional" love for him will have to play into the next three episodes; it just has to. Besides, Nadia's existence gives Sloane a real, true, honest to goodness dilemma, a reason not to dip his toes in the darkside again.

Another interesting aspect is Nadia's unconditional love itself. The lovely has anger/violence issues--she bangbang!Fox, even though she had a thing with him. But he was a Bad Guy, and she had to shoot him. But she keeps giving Sloane more chances--which, sadly for ME, since I love the Nadia/Sloane dynamic, will definitely bite her in the ass. I think Sloane will end up going evilish again, which will drive Nadia to do similarly... just, opposing Sloane. Like, a triangle of forces. Nadia vs. Sloane vs. The Bristows.

PAR-TAY.

[sunshine-queen.livejournal.com]

What confuses me is the whole timeline of the Sloanes being in Europe. I mean, they've always said that they spent the majority of Sydney's childhood in Europe- so, okay, they're living in Europe, they have Jacquelyn... so did Sloane seek Irina out when he visited, or something? Or was it after Irina ditched the family and went to Europe?

And Irina used "almost thirty years" when it had been, like, 22 years or something, so it was completely off.

What's really super sad for me about Nadia is that she wants so badly to have a Dad, and she has Sloane, and he so manages to not lend himself to the Dad thing well. I mean, he's got that creepy paternal thing for Syd, like always, and that just stays with me. Agreed, she has been kinda keeping him from the Darkside, what with Omnifam and this season so far- but he still went loco on that dude from Daredevil with the red ball... and Nadia totally got over that. Like she already did. (Which leads up to my BIGGEST COMPLAINT OF ALL: Sydney's lack of understanding for her father EVER. But that's ANOTHER TOPIC ENTIRELY.)

And yes, our sweet has a bit of an anger thing. It's an endearing trait.

Oh! Another thing is that I'm afraid that her loving Sloane is going to bite her in the ass. It's bad enough that Tia Sonia is going to wind up being EVIL TANTE ELENA and so her trust issues are going to LEAP UP IN MID AIR AND ATTACK ANY AND ALL AROUND THEM and that's sad 'cause Nadia was an orphan.

[puggywuggy.livejournal.com]

Maybe Sloane and Emily came back to the States after Jacquelyn died because they had to get away. (Was SD-6 created yet? Or was Sloane still CIA?)

I don't think Sloaned seeked Irina out or anything... I don't know. I guess the affair just sorta happened?

And yeah, that would be twenty-two years-ish. Syd kinda sorta had to be six years old before her mom could leave. Woo.

Yes, Nadia has daddy issues. But like she's said so many times--she believes in him, and she's trying to keep him good or whatever. I think Nadia could also be set up for a huge guilt trip if Sloane goes bad again (and doesn't "come back" as he has been)--like, she should have been able to stop him, because she should've known, blah blah blah.

PLUS, wouldn't it be cool if Sydney were wrong about Sloane this time? And Nadia was right? Talk about a victory for the lovely.

Well, I HOPE she's freaked out by Sonia Maria Sophia Elena, because here's this woman that raised her but ONLY TO WATCH HER AND EVENTUALLY KILL HER. Derevko Sister Numero Tres is all kinds of evil, and I think that's kinda depressing. I also hate that the whole climax of this season is being set up by the third, ONLY MENTIONED LAST YEAR, Derevko sister.

All I have to say is, I think Irina should be head of the Covenant--she did it to protect Sydney, and somehow, to protect Nadia, too. Because that would just be so awesome, and I've wanted it all along.

[sunshine-queen.livejournal.com]

Well, yeah, but they still "spent most of Sydney's childhood in Europe." I swear, I didn't make that up. Because Sloane said that he had known Sydney since she was born, but she didn't know him because him and Emily were away! This never made much sense to me, because I doubt that Emily would've lied to Sydney all those years. But whatever.

Okay, there is no way that affair "just happened." I mean, Sloane LOVED Emily. Like, die-hard, excessive devotion to one's wife, love. And Irina loved Jack. So it wasn't like they got carried away with affection or something. Gaaah. I don't know what it was.

Like, six and a half. But whatever.

Oh, Nadia totally will blame herself if she isn't enough to keep Sloane from The Dark Side, because that's an inherited Derevko Trait, or something. And she does believe in him- but WHY? DOES NO ONE REMEMBER THE GREEN GOO? I mean, yeah, yay second chances and all, but that was not some minor thing like forgetting a birthday.

Dude. That's just petty. I'm pretty sure Sydney would prefer it if Sloane weren't evil. For one thing, it would devastate Nadia, and she's her sister and etc. Plus? She'll feel really stupid for missing it AGAIN. All in all, I see it as less of a victory for the lovely over Syd than a victory in general.

Dude, Katya was only mentioned last year, too. THEY MAKE IT UP AS THEY GO ALONG. And I'm kinda thrilled that she isn't at home baking cookies or anything, but poor Nadia. It's sad that she raised Nadia and now she's all evil and stuff.

Ooh, and Cole worked for her! Remember, that was the link we got between her and Sloane last season?

[puggywuggy.livejournal.com]

Basically, yeah, they lived in Europe for her childhood. But maybe Sloane went to the States for a "business trip" that resulted in a daughter. Who knows.

Yes, Sloane loved Emily, and Irina loved Jack... but Ross loved Rachel, but he totally did Chloe the Copy Girl! And Teena Mulder loved Bill Mulder (for awhile), but she had an affair with CSM and had baby Fox! And BIG LOVED CARRIE, and then the bastard got married! <--Really, I've made no point. Just that TV relationships are screwy. Obsessions can make people do crazy things. Sloane injected his daughter with toxic slime stuff... so the affair doesn't seem AS far-fetched. I'm not saying they just decided, Hey, let's do it. Maybe after Jacquelyn, Sloane and Emily were have marriage problems, Sloane was deep in Rambaldi, Irina was [insert emotional dilemma here]? And they sorta... just... came together... in des...pera...tion?

Totally make shit up here.

No one remembers the green goo because Season 3 didn't exist. Except for Nadia, and like, two instances of Lauren angst, one of which came FROM SARK. :P

I know Katya was just last year, but Katya isn't a major player these days. Elena will be. It's ANNOYING to me, I guess. It looks/feels too last minute-y. Whatever. That's just me. :D

That's--Cole--probably WHY I assumed Irina as HotC... that, and, she was never around. Plus it would JUST BE COOL.

[sunshine-queen.livejournal.com]

Sloane turning to Irina in desperation kinda makes sense, since Emily kinda closed off to Sloane after poor Jacquelyn died, and we don't know how long that lasted... but Irina, it just irks me. I mean, I wouldn't change a thing because it resulted in our little precious darling, but... gah.

*sigh* I know Season 3 didn't happen, but it's still crazy. I mean, they started this season off with Nadia mad at Sloane, but that... completely dissipated? Or something?

LOL, Nica, bitter much? I miss Renny, too.

Well, yeah, Katya's in jail, and Elena's on the loose. And, again, the boys at Alias? THEY MAKE THIS SHIT UP AS THEY GO. Everything, I swear, is last minute, especially now that they've abandoned continuity.

Yes, Nica, it would be cool. Especially the part where she turned Syd into an assassin! That part would be awesome and totally maternal! (Hey, I believe in giving Irina as much power as possible, so yay for her if she ruled the Covvies. It just is kinda mean.)

[orci505.livejournal.com]

Ha, whoa man, i didnt think about the timeline thing. Now im confused. o.O

But Emily was there. SQUEE! It was a shoutout back to days of yore.

Nadia is love. I <3 Nadia. She's so cute even in all of her angsty goodness.

[sunshine-queen.livejournal.com]

Nadia is absolutely the most lovely little thing on God's good earth.